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Dist. 45, Art. 3, Q. 1

Book IV: On the Sacraments · Distinction 45

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Nota de apparatu. Quaracchi restarts its footnote numbering on every printed page. This chunk spans pp. 947–949, so its notes are page-qualified: notes 7–8 of page 947, notes 1–11 of page 948, and notes 1–2 of page 949. Notes 1–6 of page 947 belong to the preceding question (art. II, q. 3); notes 3–6 of page 949 belong to the following question (art. III, q. 2).

Articulus III. De suffragiis, quae Sancti impendunt vivis.

Consequenter quantum ad tertium articulum quaeritur de suffragiis, quae impenduntur vivis a Sanctis sive a defunctis. Et circa hoc quaeruntur tria.

Primo quaeritur, utrum Sancti orent pro nobis.

Secundo, utrum Sancti impetrent nobis aliquid suis orationibus.

Tertio, utrum sit nobis utile rogare Sanctos.

Quaestio I. Utrum Sancti orent pro nobis.

Quantum ergo ad primum ostenditur, quod Sancti orent pro nobis:

1. Quia dicitur de Christo, qui est Sanctus Sanctorum, ad Hebraeos septimo7: Semper vivens ad interpellandum pro nobis; sed Sancti sunt eius imitatores: ergo sicut Christus orat, et Sancti orant.

2. Item, hoc ipsum probatur per illud quod dicitur Ioannis decimo quarto8: Ego rogabo Patrem, et alium Paraclitum dabit vobis; ergo similiter Sancti orant.

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3. Item, Ecclesia communiter orat1: « Sancta Maria, ora pro nobis », ergo etc.: ergo si non stulte petit, patet etc.

4. Item, ratione videtur: quia Sancti diligunt nos ex caritate, ergo optant et desiderant salutem nostram; sed constat, quod sciunt, illam non posse esse nisi a Deo, ergo optant illam per Deum: ergo cum desiderium alicuius rei a Deo sit oratio2, patet etc.

Contra:

1. Sancti volunt nobis salutem vel aliud bonum, aut non volunt. Si nolunt: ergo non orant; si volunt; sed dicit Anselmus in Proslogio3 quod « Beati erunt omnipotentes suae voluntatis, sicut et Deus suae »: ergo cum « nullus oret quod potest per se », sicut dicit Augustinus de Correctione et gratia; si Sancti possunt, salutem nostram non orant, vel non sunt omnipotentes, si non possunt.

2. Item, ut dicit Damascenus4, « oratio est ascensus intellectus in Deum »; sed Beati sunt in termino suae contemplationis: ergo eorum intellectus in Deum non ascendit, ergo non orant.

3. Item, beatus est cui ad votum cuncta succedunt; unde Augustinus decimo tertio de Trinitate5 dicit, quod « Beatus habet quidquid vult »; sed nullus, habens quidquid vult, aliquid orat vel petit: ergo Sancti in patria non orant pro nobis.

Item, si Christus orat pro nobis, quaeritur quare non dicitur in Litania: Christe, ora pro nobis? Ergo si non dicitur, videtur, quod non oret pro nobis, ac per hoc nec Sancti.

Item, quaeritur: quare non dirigitur ad Spiritum sanctum oratio, sicut ad Patrem et Filium6?

Conclusio. Sancti in caelo pro nobis orant.

Respondeo: Dicendum, quod, sicut dicit Magister in littera7, « Sancti pro nobis orant ». — Et huius ratio est duplex: una est, quia vident nostram necessitatem, qua nos indigemus ab aliis relevari; alia propter Dei voluntatem, quia vult, ut unum membrum aliud relevet, et quod pro invicem sollicita sint membra8; unde cum ipsi sint liberati, debent alios adiuvare.

Ad 1. Ad illud ergo quod obiicitur, quod possunt quidquid volunt; dicendum, quod voluntas dupliciter comparatur ad actum: aut ad actum proprium, ut volo hoc facere; aut ad actum alienum, ut volo, quod alius faciat hoc, scilicet Deus vel homo. Unde dico, quod auctoritas Anselmi est respectu actus proprii, sed oratio vel petitio salutis respectu actus divini, ut scilicet Deus salvet.

Ad 2. Ad illud quod obiicitur, quod non ascendit intellectus in Deum; dicendum, quod intellectus dicitur in Deum ascendere tripliciter: aut per novum aspectum in Deum, scilicet quando homo revocat cogitationem ab aliis et convertit in Deum; et sic est tantum in viatoribus. — Alio modo, per aspectum alterius inferioris rei, ut cum quis cogitat humanam miseriam et implorat misericordiam, ut relevet miseriam; ibi dicitur aspectus, non quia de novo aspiciat, sed quia aliud inferius ad illud respiciat; et sic est in Beatis, quando pro nobis rogant, quia tunc nostram indigentiam considerant. — Tertio modo, propter continuationem intuitus primi; unde cum quis considerat Deum, qui est super se, et continue considerat, continue ascendit, non quia ad aliud et ad aliud, sed quia super se fertur; et hoc modo continue est in Beatis. Et sic patet istud, quia, si primo modo dicatur oratio, ascensus est tantum viae, secundo modo est viae et patriae, tertio modo tantum patriae9.

Ad 3. Ad illud quod obiicitur, quod Beatus habet quidquid vult; dicendum, quod Beatus aliqua vult sibi, aliqua vult aliis. Dico ergo, quod ad substantiam10 beatitudinis est, ut habeat omne quod vult sibi; sed ut habeat omne quod vult aliis, non est de substantia beatitudinis, sed de consummatione et bene esse; et hoc non erit, quousque omnes electi sint glorificati. Tunc enim quilibet habebit quod vult sibi et quod vult cuilibet alii; et tunc plena est beatitudo. Unde11 Beati orant tantum pro aliis, miseri pro se et pro aliis; sed consummato numero electorum, non rogabunt pro se nec pro aliis.

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Ad quaestionem incidentem 1. Ad illud quod ultimo quaeritur de Christo, dicendum, quod propter errorem Arii vitandum1, ne videamur Christum credere creaturam; et ne videamur eius potestatem minuere, qua potest omnia, eius petimus miserationem, non orationem.

Ad quaestionem incidentem 2. Quod vero quaeritur de Spiritu sancto, dicendum est, quod quia est donum, in quo omnia dona donantur2, ideo petendus est ipse, non porrigenda est ei petitio.

Scholion

I. Concilium Trident. (Sess. XXV. decret. de invocatione et venerat. et reliquiis Sanctor.) secundum s. Scripturam et perpetuam traditionem docet: « Sanctos una cum Christo regnantes orationes suas pro hominibus Deo offerre; bonum atque utile esse suppliciter eos invocare; et ob beneficia impetranda a Deo per Filium eius Iesum Christum, Dominum nostrum, qui solus redemptor et salvator est, ad eorum orationes, opem auxiliumque confugere » etc. — Conclusiones igitur trium quaestionum sunt de fide; unde etiam certum est, aliquo modo eosdem nostras orationes cognoscere (quamvis, absolute loquendo, pro nobis intercedere possent, quin per se ipsos scirent nostras preces, Deo eos ad suffragandam nobis movente). Hoc docet S. Bonav. infra q. 3. ad 4, dub. 9. et d. 50. p. II. a. 1. q. 2, et speciali quaestione probat S. Thom. (hic q. 3. a. 1; Suppl. q. 72. a. 1.). De quatuor modis, quibus preces a Sanctis sciri possint, cfr. Estius (hic § 19.). Communiter docetur, Sanctos in Verbo tanquam speculo voluntario videre ea quae ad ipsos pertinent. Nam, ut uterque S. Doctor locis citt. expresse asserit, et ut per se patet, Sancti videndo Verbum non vident omnia quae in ipso sunt. — Scot., qui hic (q. 1-3.) fuse disputat de naturali cognitione animarum separatarum, idem docet, tamen putat (q. 4. n. 2. seqq.), etiam naturali vi eosdem posse nostras orationes videre. — Alii Lombardi commentatores totum hunc articulum aliter distribuunt, unde una citatione eos allegamus.

De tribus huius art. quaestionibus: Scot., hic q. 4. praesertim n. 5. — S. Thom., hic q. 3. a. 1-3; Suppl. q. 72. a. 1-3. — B. Albert., hic a. 12. — Petr. a Tar., hic q. 3. a. 1-3. — Richard. a Med., hic a. 7. q. 1-4. — Durand., hic q. 4. — Dionys. Carth., hic q. 3. 4.

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English Translation

Article III. On the suffrages which the Saints bestow upon the living.

Next, as to the third article, inquiry is made concerning the suffrages which are bestowed upon the living by the Saints or by the departed. And concerning this three things are asked.

First it is asked, whether the Saints pray for us.

Second, whether the Saints obtain anything for us by their prayers.

Third, whether it is useful for us to ask the Saints.

Question I. Whether the Saints pray for us.

As to the first, then, it is shown that the Saints do pray for us:

1. Because it is said of Christ, who is the Holy of Holies, in Hebrews the seventh7: Always living to make intercession for us; but the Saints are his imitators: therefore as Christ prays, the Saints also pray.

2. Again, this same thing is proved by that which is said in John the fourteenth8: I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Paraclete; therefore in like manner the Saints pray.

3. Again, the Church commonly prays1: "Holy Mary, pray for us," therefore etc.: therefore if she does not ask foolishly, the point is clear, etc.

4. Again, it seems so by reason: because the Saints love us out of charity, therefore they choose and desire our salvation; but it is agreed that they know that salvation cannot be except from God, therefore they choose it through God: therefore since the desire of anything from God is prayer2, the point is clear, etc.

On the contrary:

1. The Saints either will for us salvation or some other good, or they do not will it. If they do not will it, then they do not pray; if they do will it — but Anselm says in the Proslogion3 that "the Blessed will be omnipotent over their own will, as God is over his": therefore since "no one prays for what he can do of himself," as Augustine says in On Correction and Grace; if the Saints are able, they do not pray for our salvation, or else they are not omnipotent, if they are not able.

2. Again, as the Damascene says4, "prayer is the ascent of the intellect into God"; but the Blessed are at the term of their contemplation: therefore their intellect does not ascend into God, therefore they do not pray.

3. Again, he is blessed for whom all things turn out according to his wish; whence Augustine in the thirteenth book On the Trinity5 says that "the Blessed man has whatever he wills"; but no one who has whatever he wills prays or asks for anything: therefore the Saints in the fatherland do not pray for us.

Again, if Christ prays for us, it is asked why it is not said in the Litany: Christ, pray for us? Therefore if it is not said, it seems that he does not pray for us, and by this neither do the Saints.

Again, it is asked: why is prayer not directed to the Holy Spirit, as it is to the Father and the Son6?

Conclusion. The Saints in heaven pray for us.

I answer: It must be said that, as the Master says in the text7, "the Saints pray for us." — And the ground of this is twofold: one is that they see our need, by which we require to be relieved by others; the other is on account of God's will, because he wills that one member should relieve another, and that the members should be solicitous for one another8; whence, since they themselves have been set free, they ought to help others.

To 1. To that, then, which is objected, that they can do whatever they will: it must be said that the will is compared to an act in two ways: either to its own act, as "I will to do this"; or to another's act, as "I will that another do this," namely God or man. Whence I say that Anselm's authority is with respect to one's own act, but prayer or the petition for salvation is with respect to the divine act, namely that God should save.

To 2. To that which is objected, that the intellect does not ascend into God: it must be said that the intellect is said to ascend into God in three ways: either by a new regard toward God, namely when a man recalls his thought from other things and turns it toward God; and thus it is only in wayfarers. — In another way, by the regard of some lower thing, as when someone considers human misery and implores mercy, that it may relieve the misery; there it is called a regard, not because he looks anew, but because something lower looks toward that; and thus it is in the Blessed, when they ask on our behalf, because then they consider our indigence. — In a third way, on account of the continuation of the first gaze; whence when someone considers God, who is above him, and considers him continuously, he continuously ascends, not because he passes to one thing and another, but because he is borne above himself; and in this way it is continuously in the Blessed. And thus this is clear, because, if prayer is spoken of in the first way, the ascent belongs only to the way; in the second way it belongs to the way and to the fatherland; in the third way only to the fatherland9.

To 3. To that which is objected, that the Blessed man has whatever he wills: it must be said that the Blessed man wills some things for himself, some things for others. I say therefore that it belongs to the substance10 of beatitude that he should have everything he wills for himself; but that he should have everything he wills for others does not belong to the substance of beatitude, but to its consummation and well-being; and this will not be until all the elect are glorified. For then each will have what he wills for himself and what he wills for every other; and then beatitude is full. Whence11 the Blessed pray only for others, the wretched for themselves and for others; but when the number of the elect has been consummated, they will ask neither for themselves nor for others.

To the first incidental question. To that which is asked last concerning Christ, it must be said that it is for the sake of avoiding the error of Arius1, lest we should seem to believe Christ a creature; and lest we should seem to diminish his power, by which he can do all things, we ask of him his compassion, not his prayer.

To the second incidental question. But as to what is asked concerning the Holy Spirit, it must be said that, because he is the Gift in whom all gifts are given2, therefore he himself is to be asked for, and a petition is not to be offered to him.

Scholion

I. The Council of Trent (Sess. XXV, decree on the invocation and veneration and relics of the Saints), following holy Scripture and perpetual tradition, teaches: "that the Saints reigning together with Christ offer their prayers to God for men; that it is good and useful suppliantly to invoke them; and that, for the obtaining of benefits from God through his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, who alone is redeemer and savior, one should have recourse to their prayers, their aid and their help," etc. — The conclusions, therefore, of the three questions are of faith; whence it is also certain that in some manner these same Saints know our prayers (although, absolutely speaking, they could intercede for us without themselves knowing our petitions, God moving them to give us their suffrage). This St. Bonaventure teaches below, q. 3, ad 4, dub. 9, and d. 50, p. II, a. 1, q. 2; and St. Thomas proves it in a special question (here q. 3, a. 1; Suppl. q. 72, a. 1). On the four ways in which prayers can be known by the Saints, cf. Estius (here § 19). It is commonly taught that the Saints see in the Word, as in a voluntary mirror, those things which pertain to them. For, as both holy Doctors expressly assert in the places cited, and as is clear of itself, the Saints in seeing the Word do not see all things that are in it. — Scotus, who here (q. 1-3) discusses at length the natural cognition of separated souls, teaches the same, yet holds (q. 4, n. 2 ff.) that even by natural power they can see our prayers. — Other commentators on the Lombard divide this whole article differently, whence we cite them with a single reference.

On the three questions of this article: Scotus, here q. 4, especially n. 5. — St. Thomas, here q. 3, a. 1-3; Suppl. q. 72, a. 1-3. — Bl. Albert, here a. 12. — Peter of Tarantasia, here q. 3, a. 1-3. — Richard of Middleton, here a. 7, q. 1-4. — Durandus, here q. 4. — Denis the Carthusian, here q. 3, 4.

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Apparatus Criticus
  1. 7
    Vers. 25.
    Verse 25.
  2. 8
    Vers. 16. — In fine arg. cod. F addit pro nobis.
    Verse 16. — At the end of the argument cod. F adds pro nobis.
  3. 1
    In salutatione angelica et in Litaniis lauretanis.
    In the angelic salutation and in the Litany of Loreto.
  4. 2
    Vide supra pag. 368, nota 3. — Pro prima conclusione notentur verba Aristot., II. Rhetor. c. 5. (c. 4.): Est igitur amare velle alicui bona evenire... et quantum in eo est, efficere, ut illa veniant. — Post desiderium codd. G L N Y Z aa (E bb a secunda manu) addunt vehemens.
    See above, p. 368, note 3. — For the first conclusion note the words of Aristotle, Rhetoric II, c. 5 (c. 4): To love, then, is to will that goods befall someone... and, so far as lies in one, to bring it about that they come. — After desiderium codd. G L N Y Z aa (E bb by a second hand) add vehemens.
  5. 3
    Cap. 25. — Seq. sententia August. habetur in eius libro de Natura et gratia, c. 18. n. 20. Cfr. tom. III. pag. 371, nota 3.
    Chapter 25. — The following statement of Augustine is found in his book On Nature and Grace, c. 18, n. 20. Cf. vol. III, p. 371, note 3.
  6. 4
    Libr. III. de Fide orthod. c. 24. Vide supra pag. 368, nota 3.
    Book III, On the Orthodox Faith, c. 24. See above, p. 368, note 3.
  7. 5
    Cap. 5. n. 8: Omnes autem beati habent quod volunt, quamvis non omnes qui habent quod volunt, continuo sint beati; continuo autem miseri qui vel non habent quod volunt, vel id habent quod non recte volunt. Beatus igitur non est, nisi qui et habet omnia quae vult, et nihil vult male.
    Chapter 5, n. 8: All the blessed, however, have what they will, although not all who have what they will are forthwith blessed; but they are forthwith wretched who either do not have what they will, or have that which they do not rightly will. He therefore is not blessed except the one who both has all that he wills and wills nothing badly.
  8. 6
    In pluribus codd. et edd. desideratur et Filium.
    In several codices and editions et Filium is wanting.
  9. 7
    Hic c. 6. — Inferius pro qua nos, quod habent codd. G M O S X aa (bb a secunda manu), alii et edd. quia nos, et pro ab aliis codd. G L aa ab eis, Vat. ab illis.
    Here c. 6. — Below, for qua nos, which codd. G M O S X aa (bb by a second hand) have, others and the editions read quia nos; and for ab aliis codd. G L aa read ab eis, the Vatican ab illis.
  10. 8
    Epist. I. Cor. 12, 25. — Mox post ipsi sint cod. X addit membra et sint.
    First Epistle to the Corinthians 12:25. — Just after ipsi sint cod. X adds membra et sint.
  11. 9
    Cfr. III. Sent. d. 17. a. 2. q. 1. ad 3. — Superius pro unde cum codd. G L bb ut cum.
    Cf. III Sentences, d. 17, a. 2, q. 1, ad 3. — Above, for unde cum codd. G L bb read ut cum.
  12. 10
    Codd. E F de substantia.
    Codd. E F read de substantia.
  13. 11
    Ita codd. E G L aa bb, codd. I K Beati ergo, alii codd. et edd. Item Beati. Pro plena est codd. G aa erit plena.
    So codd. E G L aa bb; codd. I K read Beati ergo, other codices and the editions Item Beati. For plena est codd. G aa read erit plena.
  14. 1
    Cfr. I. Sent. d. 13. dub. 8. — Edd. addunt dictum est, cod. O est. Inferius post creaturam a cod. S additur puram, et post omnia a cod. F ideo.
    Cf. I Sentences, d. 13, dub. 8. — The editions add dictum est, cod. O est. Below, after creaturam cod. S adds puram, and after omnia cod. F adds ideo.
  15. 2
    Vide I. Sent. d. 18. q. 1. — In fine solut. multi codd. et ed. 1 omittunt ei, cod. K (I a secunda manu) ad ipsum.
    See I Sentences, d. 18, q. 1. — At the end of the solution many codices and ed. 1 omit ei; cod. K (I by a second hand) reads ad ipsum. ---
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